Over Coming Challenges
Created By
Western So-Called Civilisation
"What Krsna says, that is truth." Krsna bhakti kaile sarva-karma krta haya: "If
I follow Krsna, then my business is complete." This is intelligence. Now... We
have come to the open field. How it is nice. And so long we were passing
through that congested areas--hellish, simply hellish. And now here is open space. How
it is nice.
Hari-sauri: To enter into a city is so imposing on your consciousness.
Prabhupada: Up to that point, simply rubbish, all papers thrown here and there.
People are living in... Now see here, how it is open and pleasing. Organize
this farm project. Farm. (background talking)
Hari-sauri: He's just saying that in the West one
requires a great deal of
capital. To start a farm, to get the land, you need a
lot of money because land
is very expensive. And also we have to use modern farming
techniques because we
have so few men to run the farms.
Prabhupada: No, you show example. People will
do automatically. When the people
find it is very nice, they will take.
Hari-sauri: Should we try to make an effort to
have our householders go and
live on the farms, a special effort? If it's ready to
do that?
Prabhupada: Why householders? Everyone. Hare Krsna.
(japa)
Ramesvara: In America there is a very big emphasis
on getting people to join us
by moving into our temples. The temple presidents are
very eager to get as many
people to move in as possible, but in the long run most
people cannot come up
to the standard.
Prabhupada: Therefore I am [advocating]... Farms.
Ramesvara: So they have to be encouraged to have
a little bit of Krsna
consciousness in their own home, make their home a temple.
Prabhupada: No, let them go to the farm, New Vrindaban.
Ramesvara: Many people... Most people in the world,
they are grhamedhis, and
they cannot give it up so easily.
Prabhupada: "No, you remain... Come here with
your wife, children. You remain
grhamedhi."
Jagadisa: New Vrindaban is very austere. If we
build little bungalows with
modern convenience...
Prabhupada: Oh, yes.
Jagadisa: There has to be some modern convenience.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. Then we shall do that.
Ramesvara: But for many people who live in the
cities, they have their jobs
already. They don't want to give it up.
Prabhupada: (train slows
down) What is the nonsense? No, there is a station? No station.
Jagadisa: Why does this train keep stopping? (train
stops)
Prabhupada: Hare Krsna. Hare Krsna. Jaya.
Jagadisa: Why does the train keep stopping?
Prabhupada: Who is this gentleman?
Hari-sauri: Pradyumna?
Prabhupada: Oh, Pradyumna.
Ramesvara: Say, in America, most people live in
the cities, and they already have their job, and they are set in their
ways.
Prabhupada: But you said that there is unemployment
also.
Ramesvara: To a certain extent. But there are
still 250,000,000 people. So most
of them...
Prabhupada: So those who are unemployed, let them
come to us. We shall give them employment.
Ramesvara: Yes. But for the mass population...
Prabhupada: Well, gradually you will increase
and...
Ramesvara: We have to give them something that
they can do in their home.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes.
Ramesvara: Because it is impractical to think that
they will give up everything and move into the temple.
Prabhupada: No, those who are unemployed, let
them come. We shall give them employment.
Jagadisa: On the farm.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Ramesvara: For those who are unemployed, that's
attractive.
Jagadisa: But for those who are already employed...
Ramesvara: But most people have jobs.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Ramesvara: Many people already have their jobs
and their families.
Prabhupada: All right, let them not come, but
those who are unemployed, let them come.
Ramesvara: But what...? For those people who already
have their jobs, instead of...
Prabhupada: That job... They will be very soon
jobless. Don't worry. (laughs) They will come. They will be obliged to
come. Now they have got job, but as the days are advancing in Kali-yuga,
they'll be jobless.
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