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Is worshipping Jesus compatible
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What is the difference
between Jesus and Krishna ?
You may have read the Book
Jesus Lived in India (Holger Kersten. 1986. Element Books), a book
that goes over the lost years of Jesus from the time of his childhood to
when he returned to Israel in his mid-thirties, a gap of about 18 years.
" A short introductory section precedes
a brief description of the early history of the people of Israel and the
life of Moses. An account then follows of how the eternal Spirit resolves
to take on human form 'so that he might demonstrate by his own example
how moral purity may be attained, and by freeing the soul from its rude
mortality, achieve the degree of perfection required to enter into the
Kingdom of Heaven, which is unchanging and ruled by eternal happiness'.
And so a divine infant is born in far-away Israel, and is given the
name Issa. Sometime during the fourteenth year of his life, the lad arrives
in the region of the Sind (the Indus) in the company of merchants, 'and
he settled among the Aryans, in the land beloved of God, with the intention
of perfecting himself and learning from the laws of the great Buddha',
The young Issa travels through the land of the five rivers (the Punjab),
stays briefly with the 'erring Jains', 'and then proceeds to Jagannath',
'where the white priests of Brahma honoured him with a joyous reception'.
At Jagannath Issa/Jesus learns to read and understand the Veda. But by
then instructing the Sudras of the lowest castes, he incurs the displeasure
of the Brahmanas, who feel their position and power threatened. After spending
six years in Jagannath, Rajagriha, Benares and other holy cities, he is
compelled to flee the Brahmanas who are outraged at his continuing to teach
that it is not the will of God that the worth of human beings should be
judged by the caste.
There is an extraordinary correlation
between the accounts in the texts found by Notovitch and those of the Gospels,
a correlation that can shed more light on Jesus's own personality - especially
in what he said. Notovitch's Issa opposes the abuses of the caste system,
which rob the lower castes of their basic human rights, saying, 'God our
Father makes no difference between any of his children all of whom he loves
equally.' And later on his travels he takes issue with a rigid and inhumane
adherence to the letter of the law, declaring that, 'The law was made for
Man, to show him the way., He consoles the weal: 'The eternal Judge, the
eternal Spirit, who forms the sole and indivisible World Soul (Super-soul)
...will proceed sternly against those who arrogate His rights to themselves.'
When the priests challenge Issa to produce miracles, to prove the omnipotence
of his God, he retorts, 'The miracles of our God have been performed ever
since the first day when the universe was created; they take place every
day and at every moment . Those who cannot perceive them are robbed of
one of the most beautiful gifts of life.' Challenging the authority of
the priests, he makes his position quite clear: 'So long as the people
had no priests, they were ruled by natural law and they preserved the flawlessness
of their souls. Their souls were in the presence of God, and to commune
with the Father they had no need to resort to the meditation of an idol
or a beast, nor to fire, as is practised here. You say that the Sun must
be worshipped, as must the spirits of good and the spirits of evil. Well,
I tell you your doctrine is an utterly false one, for the Sun has no power
of its own, but solely through the will of the invisible Creator, who gave
it birth, and who has willed it to be the star to light the day, and to
warm the labour and the seed-time of Man.'
Notovitch's text goes on to describe
how Issa goes further into the Himalayan ranges, to Nepal, where he remains
for six years and dedicates himself to the study of Buddhist scriptures.
The doctrines that he teaches widely there are simple and clear, and are
particularly aimed at uplifting the oppressed and the weak, whose eyes
he opens to the falsity of the priests. Finally, he moves on towards the
West, passing through various countries as an itinerant preacher, preceded
well in advance by a celebrated reputation. He also stands up to the priests
of Persia, who expel him one night in the hope that he would quickly fall
prey to wild animals. But Providence allows the holy Issa to reach Palestine
safely, where the wise men inquire of him, 'Who are you, and from what
country do you come? We have never heard of you and do not even know your
name.'
'I am an Israelite,' Issa replies,
'and on the day of my birth I saw the walls of Jerusalem and heard the
sobs of my brothers in their slavery and the walls of my sisters condemned
to live among the heathen. And my soul grieved sorely when I heard that
my brothers had forgotten the true God. As a child, I left my parents'
home to live among other peoples. But after hearing of the great sorrows
that my brothers were suffering. I returned to the land where my parents
lived, in order to bring my brothers back to the faith of our ancestors,
a faith which enjoins us to be patient on Earth so that we might achieve
the consummate and highest happiness in the Beyond".(Holger Kersten. 1986
& 1994. Jesus Lived in India. pages 10-12.)
As well as this there is documented evidence that not only did he visit there at this time but also after the resurrection too.
This is an English version of an Urdu treatise written
by the Holy Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad (1835-1908). The theme is the escape of Jesus from death on
the cross, and his journey to India in search of the lost tribes of Israel.
Christian as well as Muslim scriptures, and old medical and historical
books including ancient Buddhist records, provide evidence about this journey.
Jesus is shown to have reached Afghanistan, and
to have met the Jews who had settled there after deliverance from the bondage
of Nebuchadnezzar. From Afghanistan Jesus went on to Kashmir, where
other Israelite tribes had settled. There he made his home, and there in
time he died; his tomb has been found in Srinagar.
:Title Jesus in India
1 Jesus in India
2 Preface
2 Introduction
2 Chapter One
2 Chapter Two
3 On the evidence of the Holy Quran and authentic traditions
in proof of Jesus' survival.
2 Chapter Three
3 On the Evidence derived from books and medicine
2 Chapter Four
3 Evidence from books of history
3 Section 1 - Evidence from Islamic books which contain
a mention of Jesus' journey
3 Section 2 - Evidence from books on Buddhism
3 Section 3 - On the evidence from books of history which
show that the coming of Jesus.....
1 Appendix
(Copied from "Jesus in India" by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad Qadiani, The Promised Messiah (as).)
The content of this book echo that of Jesus Lived in
India (Holger Kersten 1986 &1994.) the following is also referred
to there.
We have clear written evidence from the ancient scriptures of India, written down more than five thousand years ago by the great sage Srila Krishna Dvarpayana Veda Vyasa that the coming of Christ (The Son of God) was a genuine incident where the Lord sent His pure devotee to perform a particular function among a particular group of people in a particular tract of land.
Let me include it here for your pleasure:
In Bhavishya Purana He is referred to specifically as Isha Putra - "the Son of God."
In the following excerpt from a lecture of our Founder
Acarya Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada he clearly points out
how the Lord sends His partial expansion in the form of empowered being
for functionary aspects of fulfilling His works. These empowered beings
in the Sanskrit language of India are termed saktyavesha avataras.
"Lord Buddha, Jesus Christ, they are counted as
saktyavesha avataras. They are also incarnations of saktyavesha, powerful,
in this way the Supreme Lord manifest all over the universes." (A.C. Bhaktivedanta
Swami Prabhupada. 1966. Chaitanya Charitamrta lecture. New York.)
Previously when they appeared They did so swith and for a set purpose. Even prior to their appearance in this world Their clear task was already set out. Actually They were not of this world, but are spiritual beings empowered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead to come to this world to fulfil His mission. As we know Lord Buddha came to stop the people from their animal slaughter and to teach the compassionate path. Their appearance in this world was not of some sectarian, conquestrian mission unlike some of their latter day "followers". They appeared at a particular place at a particular time and under specific circumstances that allowed the people of the day to accept their mission as meaningful. It was part of the overall plan to re-instill and spread God consciousness, to the masses who were/are in so much need of it.
From SRI BHAVISHYA PURANA. Pratisarga parva, Chaturyuga Khanda Dvitiyadhyayah, 19th Chapter. (text 20 onwards).
Ruling over the Aryans was a king called Salivahana, the grandson of Vikramaditya, who occupied the throne of his father. He defeated the Sakas who were very difficult to subdue, the Cinas, the people from Tittiri and Bahikaus who could assume any form at will. He also defeated the people from Rome and the descendants of Khuru, who were deceitful and wicked. He punished them severely and took their wealth. Salivahana thus established the boundaries dividing the separate countries of the Mlecchas and the Aryans. In this way Sindusthan came to to be known as the greatest country. That personality appointed the abode of the Mlecchas beyond the Sindhu river and to the west.
naiganam apamasthaya
japeta nirmalam param
nyayena satyavacasaa
manasyai kena manavah
dhyayena pujayedisham
suurya-mandala-samsthitam
acaloyam prabhuh sakshat-
athaa suuryacalah sada
Thus ends the second chapter entitled, "the age of Salivahara" of the story of Kali Yuga of the Caturyuga Khanda also called pratisarga-parva of the wonderful Bhavishya Maha Purana.
The following Sanskrit verses are taken directly from the Srimad Bhagavatam of Srila Vyasadeva, the original spiritual master, to support that what we are saying is coming from authorised the word of God that Bhavishya Purana is an authorised book written by Srila Vyasadeva.
As we know from reading Srimad Bhagavatam, Srila Vyasadeva was instructed by his Spiritual Master, Srila Narad Muni to compile Srimad Bhagavatam after Srila Vyasadeva had completed all of his other works, thus we find it included in the verses mentioned in the Bhagavatam. The Bhagavatam itself mentions that it was complied after the disappearance of Lord Sri Krsna to His own abode, (S.B.1:1:23. and S.B.1:3:43), just prior to the Kali Yuga which is estimated by Vaisnava scholars as being some five thousand years ago, (A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. S.B 1.3.24 purport.) 3000 B.C. Even mundane western scholars and Indologists who try to deride the Vedic scriptures, and their conclusions agree that they preceded the appearance of Christ by several thousand years.
We can safely say that these scriptures were all compiled and written before five thousand years ago by the literary incarnation of Godhead, Srila Vedavyasa. The above verses are also supported in the Varaha Purana, Siva Purana and Matsya Purana, so we can conclude that this incident found in Bhavishya Purana is definitely an authorised source of information.
Sadly much of the original theology and theosophy of the early church of Christ, like so many other great saintly teachers, and prophets has been adjusted to the point of in some cases obscurity.
We thus treasure the Bhavishya Purana, and other Vedic
literatures for having withstood the test of time, and the adulterers being
guarded in its original Sanskrit texts by a chain of dedicated masters
and disciples throughout the ages.
How this scripture's decent has been protectively
passed down through time has been captured in the example of the collecting
of delicate and ripe mangoes from the tree.
The procedure is that at many places along the
trunk of the tree dedicated and careful persons will be employed and thus
poised. As the ripened mango fruit is picked it is carefully passed from
one person to the next. Each one careful not to add anything that may change
or spoil the fruit, and taking nothing away that will diminish its effect
of satisfaction. Finally the unadulterated mango finds its way to where
it can be stored and distributed for the price known only to those who
can afford it.
It is utopian to think that everyone will take to or fully appreciate such a splendid fruit, as it is foolishness to expect common men to know the worth of a diamond, or swine to appreciate pearls.
The tendency for immature, uneducated and narrow minded
persons is to think so ethnocentricly. Children do it all the time, "My
father is better than yours!"
But looking maturely at the big picture with the
use of the analogy of the Sun, one may get a more conclusive understanding.
The one Sun that we see in our skies is universally appreciated and beneficial
to all. In our individual or particular lands we call the Sun by different
names according to our particular culture, and language of that place.
In Australia the Aboriginals call it Rakumba; the Maori of New Zealand
call the same Sun Ra; in England the Sun is referred to as Sun; in France
Sole; in India either Ravi or Surya and so on. Is it not the same Sun???
In the same way The Absolute Truth (Brahman), The Supreme Being, The Infinite Intelligence, The Almighty Lord (YAHWEH, Jehovah), The Great One (Allah), The Enlightened or Learned One (Buddha), The Reservoir Of All Pleasure (Rama), The All Attractive One (Krishna) etc., etc., are all descriptive names for the same Supreme Being - God. What then is the difference if I say Sun or Surya? The distinctiveness of the name is only applicable to the region in which it is used, and the individual function attributed by it or to it. Are we not talking of the same? Is not our attention and appreciation attracted to the same qualities?
Still there will always be those who will not accept what we say, as there will always be those who will not accept me, as there will be those that will not accept you.
In this presentation we are not trying to wedge the philosophy of Krishna consciousness firmly up anyone's nose, rather we are trying to broaden the vision of those who may not be aware of fundamental background information that could and hopefully would change the perspective to viewing the broader picture.
More than this we cannot say.......except there are those also that do not accept Lord Sri Krishna or Yahweh, Allah, etc., to be the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the orchestrator of this Divine master plan, and it wouldn't matter what we called Him. Also as they say sometimes in India....... "The dogs on the road may bark, yet still the caravan goes by!"
Jesus - A Ray of Vishnu
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